{"id":2726,"date":"2025-02-18T12:01:37","date_gmt":"2025-02-18T12:01:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euro-tv.ro\/news\/europe-at-kids-table-in-talks-on-ukraine-rheinmetall-chief-says\/"},"modified":"2025-02-18T12:01:37","modified_gmt":"2025-02-18T12:01:37","slug":"europe-at-kids-table-in-talks-on-ukraine-rheinmetall-chief-says","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euro-tv.ro\/news\/europe-at-kids-table-in-talks-on-ukraine-rheinmetall-chief-says\/","title":{"rendered":"Europe at &#8216;kids&#8217; table&#8217; in talks on Ukraine, Rheinmetall chief says"},"content":{"rendered":"<div><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.euro-tv.ro\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2025\/02\/GettyImages-2076692591.jpg\" alt=\"Europe at 'kids' table' in talks on Ukraine, Rheinmetall chief says\"><\/p>\n<p>European countries have found themselves at &#8220;a separate kids&#8217; table&#8221; in the negotiations on Ukraine because of insufficient investment in their defense, Armin Papperger, chief executive of Rheinmetall, said in an interview with the Financial Times published on Feb. 18.<\/p>\n<p>Papperger&#8217;s comments come as Russia and the U.S. <a href=\"https:\/\/kyivindependent.com\/us-russia-talks-in-saudi-arabia-begin\/\">began talks<\/a> in Saudi Arabia on ending the war in Ukraine.<\/p>\n<p>Neither <a href=\"https:\/\/kyivindependent.com\/tag\/ukraine\/\">Ukraine<\/a> nor Europe has been invited to the main discussion, <a href=\"https:\/\/kyivindependent.com\/a-push-for-ukraines-capitulation-baltic-eastern-europe-react-to-trumps-rush-to-negotiate-peace-with-putin\/\"><strong>setting off alarm bells<\/strong><\/a> in Kyiv and capitals across the continent that U.S. President Donald Trump and Russian President <a href=\"https:\/\/kyivindependent.com\/tag\/vladimir-putin\/\">Vladimir Putin<\/a> could reach an agreement without Ukraine and Europe\u2019s involvement, and one that puts their <a href=\"https:\/\/kyivindependent.com\/totally-screwed-how-trump-hegseth-are-damaging-ukraine-in-talks-with-russia\/\"><strong>future security <\/strong><\/a>in jeopardy.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/kyivindependent.com\/tag\/donald-trump\/\">Trump&#8217;s<\/a> special envoy for Ukraine and Russia, Keith Kellogg, previously said that Europe will not be directly <a href=\"https:\/\/kyivindependent.com\/europe-wont-participate-in-negotiations-but-its-interests-to-be-considered-kellogg-says\/\">involved in negotiations<\/a> to end Russia&#8217;s war in Ukraine, but its interests will be considered.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;If you don&#8217;t invest, if you&#8217;re not strong, they handle you like kids,&#8221; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ft.com\/content\/49f9a7f7-f45c-4ecf-a500-fe1240a78091\">Papperger<\/a> said, adding that over the past 30 years, Europe has considered it acceptable to invest about 1% of GDP in defense.<\/p>\n<p>As a result of insufficient investment in defense, Europe is now perceived as a child who must sit at a separate table while adults negotiate over Ukraine&#8217;s future, according to Papperger.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;If parents have dinner, the kids have to sit at another table,&#8221; he said. &#8220;The U.S. is negotiating with Russia, and no European is at the table \u2014 it has become very clear that the Europeans are the kids.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Papperger doubted that Trump&#8217;s peace talks will really lead to Russia &#8220;stopping firing.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>He also said that his company would benefit even if there was a ceasefire because Europe would continue to invest in armaments as it confronted the threat of potential Russian aggression.<\/p>\n<p>Rheinmetall is one of the largest arms manufacturers in Europe. The company provides weapons, ammunition, and equipment to Ukraine under contracts with the German government, such as 155 mm artillery rounds, <a href=\"https:\/\/kyivindependent.com\/germanys-rheinmetall-to-provide-ukraine-with-25-leopard-1-tanks\/\">Leopard 1 tanks<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/kyivindependent.com\/germanys-rheinmetall-to-supply-ukraine-with-100-000-mortar-shells\/\">mortar shells<\/a>, and drone surveillance <a href=\"https:\/\/kyivindependent.com\/rheinmetall-to-deliver-estonian-designed-mobile-drone-surveillance-systems-to-ukraine\/\">systems<\/a>, among other weapons.<\/p>\n<p>Rheinmetall also opened a military vehicle repair <a href=\"https:\/\/kyivindependent.com\/first-rheinmetall-ukraine-joint-production-plant-becomes-operational\/\">facility<\/a> in Ukraine in June 2024, the first of <a href=\"https:\/\/kyivindependent.com\/rheinmetall-arms-company-plans-to-open-at-least-4-plants-in-ukraine\/\">four plants<\/a> it plans to open in the country.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"kg-card kg-bookmark-card\"><a class=\"kg-bookmark-container\" href=\"https:\/\/kyivindependent.com\/an-experts-guide-to-us-russia-ukraine-peace-talks-in-saudi-arabia\/\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"kg-bookmark-content\">\n<div class=\"kg-bookmark-title\">Kurt Volker\u2019s guide to US-Russia Ukraine peace talks in Saudi Arabia<\/div>\n<div class=\"kg-bookmark-description\">After years of political isolation sparked by the full-scale invasion of Ukraine, U.S. and Russian officials will meet in Saudi Arabia this week to discuss how to bring an end to the war. Neither Ukraine nor Europe has been invited to the main discussion, setting off alarm bells in<\/div>\n<div class=\"kg-bookmark-metadata\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"kg-bookmark-icon\" src=\"https:\/\/assets.kyivindependent.com\/content\/images\/size\/w256h256\/format\/png\/2023\/03\/K-new.svg\" alt=\"Europe at 'kids' table' in talks on Ukraine, Rheinmetall chief says\"><span class=\"kg-bookmark-author\">The Kyiv Independent<\/span><span class=\"kg-bookmark-publisher\">Chris York<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"kg-bookmark-thumbnail\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.euro-tv.ro\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2025\/02\/GettyImages-1256148982-3.jpg\" alt=\"Europe at 'kids' table' in talks on Ukraine, Rheinmetall chief says\"><\/div>\n<p><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p> &#8211; https:\/\/kyivindependent.com\/tag\/ukraine\/rss\/<\/p>\n<p>This article appeared on the websitekyivindependent.com<br \/>\nThis article is taken based on Law no. 8\/1996 of Romania. News does not enjoy copyright, so they can be taken, this is our right to take news and information in its entirety and distribute them further. The content was made available to us through the rss mechanism<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/kyivindependent.com\/europe-has-found-itself-at-separate-table-for-kids-in-talks-on-ukraine-rheinmetall-chief-says\/\">Original Content<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>European countries have found themselves at &#8220;a separate kids&#8217; table&#8221; in the negotiations on Ukraine because of insufficient investment in their defense, Armin Papperger, chief executive of Rheinmetall, said in an interview with the Financial Times published on Feb. 18. 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